Sarah Rich: All right everyone. We're going to get started. So good morning, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Sarah Rich with Army Public Affairs. And welcome to today's 25th Infantry Division's media roundtable. Today's panel members are Maj. Gen. Marcus Evans, the 25th Infantry Division Commander and Command Sgt. Maj. Shaun Curry, the 25th Infantry Division Command Sgt. Maj. You should have all received a copy of the panel members bios in the response to your RSVPs, but if you didn't get them, please send me a note and I will get them to you as soon as possible. General Evans will provide some brief opening remarks for us today, and then we'll get started with your questions. But first, I have some ground rules for today. All comments today are treated as on the record. We will only be discussing the division's participation in the transforming in contact effort, and I will take your unrelated questions for follow-up. Please identify yourself and your news organization prior to asking your question today. And we're asking for only one question and one follow-up per person. If time permits, we will start again from the top of our list. If you have more questions than time allows, please email those to me for follow-up. And please ensure that your phones are muted unless you are asking a question. Today, we have 30 minutes slotted for this engagement, and with that, I'll turn it over to General Evans for his opening comments.
Maj. Gen. Marcus Evans: Hey, good morning, everybody. It's a great opportunity for us to be able to talk with you all. For those of you all that I've had the privilege to meet and talk with before, Sam, I think you're up on the net. And Jen and Meredith, good to at least be speaking with you all virtually. Sorry that we don't have the opportunity to be face to face. And then, Todd, I'm sorry I haven't had the opportunity to sync up with you. I do appreciate both you and Jen or you being out in the Philippines and engaging out there with General Zinn.
Hey, as discussed, we really look forward to the opportunity to talk about the transformation in contact initiative. I thought I'd start with a little bit in terms of what our division priority effort is and how that applies to our overall posture. So right now, our main focus is on war fighting readiness. Most recently, we completed a portion of Operation Pathways, which is training forward in the Pacific. And our most focused effort was in the Philippines. And in the Philippines, Todd, I think you know this, but the opportunity to train alongside our Philippine partners, work as part of a joint force with the Marines in Balikatan. And then this year, for the first time, we were able to execute a fully instrumented Joint Pacific multinational readiness center rotation west of the international dateline. And what that afforded us the opportunity to do is to execute collective training with the 7th Infantry Division from the Philippine Armed Forces and Luzon basing out of Fort Magsaysay. And I bring that up because its relevance to transformation in contact is the fact that were transforming in contact is a way to adapt formations to get new technology into the hands of Soldiers with a clear acknowledgement that the battlefield has changed, and we are striving each and every day to be more lethal and more mobile as part of the cornerstones of war fighting readiness. We acknowledge that with the changes of technology and tactics that are prevalent, that there's a requirement to rapidly transform. And this rapid transformation, I think we would all agree, happens best when it comes from bottom up refinement. And I'm privileged today to be joined by our division command Sgt. Maj., who has witnessed firsthand over the course of the last few months, our Soldiers getting new equipment in hand and then being able to take that out and train that under live fire conditions. And so really, what the next few months looks like is all of the equipment that has come in, equipment that increases mobility and lethality and really allows us the ability to see further, to have better sensing mechanisms, better striking mechanisms, and then to be able to project force and protect the force. We will then train that with a training exercise culminating in October at another combat training center rotation in Hawaii at the Joint Pacific Multinational Readiness Center. That formation will take lessons learned, and then they will deploy forward in the region about a year from now into the Philippines and executing Operation Pathways. So as a bit of a primer, I just kind of wanted to let you know where we've been, where we currently are, and the direction we're moving with this transformation in contact initiative. Really look forward to the discussion today.
SR: Okay. Thank you, sir. We'll get started with questions now. So, we'll start with Gina Cavallaro, followed by Meredith Roaten. So, Gina, go ahead with your first question.
Gina Cavallaro: Good morning, General Evans and Command Sgt. Maj. Curry, thank you for this. Could you give an example, please, of some of the sensing or striking capabilities that have been put in place during this exercise that would give an example of that transformation in contact?
MGME: Absolutely. I'll just kind of step through, first off, on the ability to see the ubiquitous nature of commercial off the shelf technology in terms of small unmanned aerial systems, are ways that we can now put that technology into Soldiers’ hands and afford them the ability to be able to see beyond line of sight. The sensing aspect is to really understand how we are observed in the electromagnetic spectrum, as well as how our adversaries are observed. So that's really the sensing aspect and then the strike capabilities. So, there are organic strike mechanisms that are within a division. You think about artillery or you think about mortars, but then how do we take and leverage the technology that is currently available with, again, autonomous systems that can extend the range of our formations? From a protection aspect, what we are primarily focused on is protecting from the counter UAS or countering the UAS threat, and how we can sense those threats that are approaching a formation and then take actions to protect the formation or to interdict those elements that are trying to strike us. Those are a few of the examples of some of the equipment that we are employing that allows us to see further, sense the environment, to be able to strike and then protect the formations.
GC: Okay. And what are some of the challenges to getting these types of capabilities quickly? The idea is to transform in contact. So how quickly can you really fulfill that?
MGME: From the time period that we were asked to start executing this transformation in contact, it was the shortest amount of time that I have ever experienced having equipment show up. So, I'll give you a quick anecdote. I think we got the formal order earlier this year, and within a few weeks, we had infantry squad vehicles showing up in Hawaii to afford the Soldiers the opportunity to begin training on that. The majority of the equipping lines have already been fielded to the Soldiers. Some are, we have more quantities than others, but it has enabled us to move very quickly into individual level training and then now to collective level training. And most recently, we just completed with the formation that is going through it, which is our second light brigade combat team just completed a combined arms live fire where the majority of the new equipment was integrated into the training. And then we'll continue to receive in some additional equipment, and I think we'll be in a position to really execute a good validation in October. So, to circle back on your question, the time period has been truncated down from what used or what previously had been experienced as a longer lead time for getting new equipment, down to really a matter of months from when a decision was made before we started implementing it.
SR: All right, thank you, Gina. We'll move on now to Meredith Roaten, followed by Todd South. Go ahead, Meredith.
Meredith Roaten: Hi, sir. Thank you for doing this. I wanted to ask about how the experimentation that you've been doing in the Philippines and other places is going to differ from the training exercise in October and kind of how you'll validate what you already have?
MGME: Hey, Meredith. Thank you. I think generally, the framework for validation and the experimentation with the different equipment lines is going to remain fairly consistent. The broad framework that drives our overall assessment validation, are we more lethal? Are we more mobile? Can we enable infantry formations, combat formations, sustainment formations, to see further, to have better sensing capability, to be able to strike further with organic assets and then protect themselves? So, the general framework is relatively consistent with what we have executed in the Philippines. I think the difference is going to be we will have increased capability through the equipping lines for the brigade that is currently undergoing this transformation and contact initiative.
MR: And my follow-up question will be for the JPMRC, are you going to have any international partners that you think will be particularly helpful for this experimentation?
MGME: We will have international partners. The exact numbers and countries that are participating is still being worked through. We will have a large joint participation this year, particularly from the Air Force as well as the Navy, as currently planned. From a multinational perspective, we are planning to incorporate about a battalion size forces from Japan. We've got some smaller elements from a sustainment warfighting function, which we're really excited about to incorporate into our overall logistics effort, from Malaysia, and then some different fires assets as well that are coming in. Also, Singapore, Thailand. So, I think a range of different forces that will be participating in JPMRC, and this affords us the opportunity to share with them lessons learned that we're experiencing from the new equipment fieldings and the opportunity to work interoperability skills from personal interoperability, which is incredibly important. And I'd like to hand it over to the Sgt. Maj. to talk a little bit about the importance of Soldiers working alongside partners and allies in a collective training event. But then also the procedural interoperability and the digital interoperability. Those are three levels that JPMRC affords us the opportunity to work alongside partners and allies with respect to interoperability. But let me go over to the Sgt. Maj., who can, I think, provide some pretty relevant examples of Soldiers working alongside Soldiers, whether it's in the Philippines or during a Joint Pacific multinational readiness center rotation in Hawaii.
Sgt. Maj. Shaun Curry: Team, Sgt. Maj. Shaun Curry here. So, the shoulder to shoulder fight and training that we've been doing inside the Philippines really starts at JPMRC. So, as our foreign partners come in into that exercise, we start exposure to each other. So, think young American kid joins the service, comes to Hawaii for their first duty location, and they go to JPMRC, where they meet a host of multinational partners for the first time ever. So, we're starting our partnership in on the ground friendship, and we start training inside of the jungle. The jungle formations being the basic building blocks for us. From there, those partnerships and friendships grow into our Operation Pathways rotations, whether that's the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei, Indonesia. And we're really growing as the transformation in contact happens, helping them see their own formations, how they fight, and how they utilize technology.
SR: All right, thank you, Meredith. We'll move on now to Todd South, followed by Mark Pomerleau. Okay. Go ahead, Todd.
Todd South: Thank you gentlemen for your time. Just to kind of piggyback on some of the stuff that's been mentioned already, general, could you kind of give us a compare, contrast with the current second light brigade combat team and say what a BCT would have looked like or been capable of, say, like three to five years ago, just to see that evolution? Like, what can you do now or in the process of developing that you maybe couldn't do with the previous formation as it was set up with a standard BCT?
MGME: Yeah, Todd, great question. And I'll use the example in terms of force projection or mobility. So, prior to receiving our infantry squad vehicles, if we wanted to pick up and move a company or battalion size element, so a company element is roughly around 130 Soldiers. A battalion element is roughly a little bit north of 500. If we wanted to project that force rapidly, we really had three principal means to do it. We could move it with our combat aviation assets. So, think rotary wing helicopters moving formations. We still have that capability and still affords us a comparative advantage to project force. We could pull trucks from our composite truck company or within the brigade. That creates, much like the aviation, a very large signature, and it also creates a sustainment challenge in terms of fuel. With the introduction of the infantry squad vehicles, we can now move a coherent fighting formation at the company level or battalion level and project them over 300 kilometers with organic assets that they have, and they can be dispersed so they're harder to target. So, imagine the ability to take 130 Soldiers spread across infantry squad vehicles and move them along multiple routes near simultaneously. It presents a challenge for our adversaries because it's a dispersed formation and then rapidly being able to mask that combat power for effects. That is one of the principal changes in the light combat brigade combat team now, as opposed to, say earlier this year. The other change is the ability to see further. And so before, and we'll just take it as at a company level or even at a battalion level, they relied on assets predominantly from the brigade or higher level and assets that required sustainment and security. Whereas opposed to now, we have small unmanned aerial system in the hands of squad leaders that can see 3 to 5 kilometers from their current position, which allows them to understand the battlefield better, protect themselves, and creates increased lethality from their overall awareness. So those are two of the areas that I would have offer or as examples are different as opposed to a few months ago.
TS: Thank you, General. Just my follow-up, you mentioned the first time the exportable JPMRC out past the IDL. Could you talk a little bit about kind of that experience versus what you might have had, say, back home in Hawaii? And also is the multidomain task force involved in any of this work so far?
MGME: The multidomain task force, I know you all are aware, they were present for the Salaknib and Balikatan training. They weren't necessarily part of the JPMRC X in the Philippines. So present, but weren't necessarily participating. Some of the lessons learned on the JPMRC X is it is a tremendous opportunity to train on the ground side by side with our Philippine partners. A tremendous opportunity for our aviation assets to fly and to land on unfamiliar terrain. An opportunity for them to work through the different environmental conditions. Similarly, at the Soldier level, to be able to work coordination with their Philippine counterparts to coordinate and integrate protection assets, fires assets, and sustainment assets. And then likewise at the division level, we were able to establish a joint operations center that integrated both 7th Infantry Division staff as well as the 25th Infantry Division staff to support the overall training.
MS: Thank you both.
SR: Thank you, Todd. Next we have Mark followed by Sam Skove. Go ahead, Mark.
Mark Pomerleau: Great. Thanks so much for doing this. I know the division has received integrated tactical network equipment in the past, which was already pretty iterative. I'd be curious to hear if you can discuss the modularity of that communication network and maybe how on the fly tweaks have been made to that equipment, sort of in line with this transforming in contact concept.
MGME: Yeah, really good question. The bottom up refinement that is part of this innovation certainly also applies to the integrated tactical network. And I think as you all are aware, mission command remains a priority effort for us, as well as being able to integrate partners that we are working with. The integrated tactical network allows us the ability to modularize some of the communications equipment that goes along with that. It affords us the ability to rapidly communicate, thus enhancing overall lethality.
MP: Is there anything that you can say maybe about what it provides at the division level? I know that historically, it's gone to brigade units, but from a division level, what does this technology allow you to do as a division commander that maybe you didn't have the wherewithal or ability to do previously?
MGME: It allows for smaller, more agile command posts, both at the division level and from the brigade and battalion level. Again, back to one of the four components of see, sense, strike, and protect. Those smaller, more agile formations enabled by the integrated tactical network directly contributes to the ability to protect the force.
SR: Thank you, Mark. Moving on to Sam Skove, followed by Jen Judson. Go ahead, Sam.
Sam Skove: Hey, sir. I was just wondering if you could talk about any lessons learned from using SUAS or counter UAS, and I'd be particularly interested in any experiments you guys have done with using SUAS for mortar artillery and how that kind of can speed up the kill chain. Over.
MGME: Hey, Sam, thanks. On SUAS, again, the ability to project out and to rapidly georectify or understand and say, okay, here is a target. It buys down having to put out a forward observer. So before, we would have to have a forward observer or some kind of higher level ISR platform that is doing target identification. Now, with the proliferation of those SUAS elements inside of infantry formations, you've expanded the number of potential forward observers to enable an indirect fire solution.
SS: And on the counter UAS side, I mean, there's obviously a lot of really interesting work, although I imagine it's also challenging because there's so many new systems. Are there any sort of lessons learned on the counter UAS?
MGME: Yeah, whatever we can do to extend our ability to see a counter UAS allows the formation to be able to posture themselves and then be prepared to interdict that, either kinetically or non-kinetically. Just being out at the basic Soldier level, just being out at their company live fires, we were flying Red UAS against the formation that was executing live fire training. And Soldiers’ ability or thinking through just being aware of the air threat, how they posture themselves and protect themselves. And in simplest terms, just looking up and being able to identify a Red UAS, as we have learned and have discussed previously, you know, the ability to protect ourselves, and acknowledging the fact that it is very challenging in today's environment to hide. And as soon as you can identify the threat that is intended to come at you and your formations, the better able you are to position yourself to mitigate that threat.
SS: Thank you, sir.
SR: Thanks, Sam. We'll move on to Jen Judson now, followed by Dan Schere. Go ahead, Jen.
Jen Judson: Hi, General. Good to have a chance to talk to you. Thanks for doing this today. I wanted to ask, obviously, about the JPMRC X. I've written about that a little bit and just, you know, you said that you had lessons learned, so I'm curious if you could expand on that a little bit. What are some of the main takeaways that you will definitely be applying to future JPMRCs or JPMRC Xs. And then to kind of follow up on that, what, after doing this with the Philippine Armed Forces, what are they asking for in a future iteration of this that they didn't have this time potentially?
MGME: Yeah. First on JPMRC in the Philippines. Jen, we're just very fortunate to be asked to participate and work alongside our Philippine partners. A few lessons learned that I would highlight, and I'd pass it over to Command Sgt. Maj. Curry, who can talk about one of them, but first and foremost, is sustainment. So, the team was operating at a higher elevation. They were operating in 95 plus degree temperatures with five hours of rain in the afternoon, which contributed about 100% humidity. So, the water consumption was very high, and there was an increased requirement to be able to resupply both forces. A lesson learned is how do you now plan for that preposition water supplies, work around environmental factors that preclude the use of our helicopters to be able to resupply. The other lesson learned that assists in mitigating that is Soldiers’ load and being able to make sure that that is taken into account for planning and it ties back to logistics. But let me, Jen, if you don't mind, let me go over to Sgt. Maj. Curry that can provide some insight on Soldier load planning to be able to buy down some of the risk associated from environmental factors and assist with sustainment.
SMSC: Yes, sir. So, for survivability, we learned from our Philippine partners, carrying less on the march is far better for success. And times of days to move throughout their terrain is slightly different from moving through the terrain inside of Hawaii. So, our Soldiers are currently carrying roughly 72 hours’ worth of their water, food, ammunition, and their personal resupply. How do we get them that equipment further, faster, deeper into the jungle? And we're taking those lessons straight back to JPMRC. All this allows our Soldiers to move further and faster. Going back to, are you more mobile? Are you more lethal? And tying into our war fighting readiness. The other lesson learned was bounding with robots. So, using the small UAS, throwing it up in the air, looking to see what's in front of you the next 1 to 300 meters allows the Soldiers at the squad level to know that it's clear and be able to move or find water or food if they need to.
MGME: And hey, Jen, just to be clear, that small UAS employment right now really is just in Hawaii. We'll use that forward on the next JPMRC rotation. The other lesson learned, it goes to sustainment. I go back to the infantry squad vehicle. We did not have those vehicles for the rotation in the Philippines. We will have those during this next time we train in the Philippines with the second brigade. So, the ability to sustain the force increases because you've got a mounted capability that has a smaller wheelbase that can maneuver around in that more restricted terrain.
JJ: Thank you.
MGME: Yeah, thank you, Jen.
JJ: Oh, and also, sorry, I think on my follow-up on the Philippines Armed Forces, is there anything specifically they're asking for for the next iteration that you will be able to bring to the table?
MGME: Not necessarily from a technological perspective. Much like us, they expressed interest, though, in the small UASs. I think it was from our discussion and working with them, it was more on the procedural interoperability with staffs. And what they relayed to us is they appreciated the opportunity to integrate at the staff level for the execution, all the way down for the employment of fire assets, maneuver assets, and sustainment assets. And they would like to see that expanded in future JPMRC training events.
SR: All right, thank you. Thank you, Jen. That's all the time we have for questions today. I'm going to turn it over to General Evans for his final closing remarks.
MGME: Hey, thanks. Is there anybody we did not get to?
SR: Yes, quite a few.
MGME: We have a little time, I just want to be respectful that you all took the time to dial in, and I'm okay if you all have a little bit more time, maybe about ten more minutes. Is that fair?
SR: That's fine with us. Okay. Dan, are you prepared for your question?
Dan Schere: Yes. Thanks so much for doing this, General. I just wanted to ask, this is sort of related to the question about UAS and lessons learned. From this exercise in the Philippines, were there any takeaways in terms of the industry capabilities for UAS and small UAS in the Pacific? Is it getting better? Is it getting cheaper? What were some of the takeaways in terms of the commercial off the shelf market?
MGME: Yeah. Again, we didn't have the opportunity to really pressure test that in the Philippines because the majority of our SUASs were back in Hawaii with second brigade. So that will certainly be something that we feedback from our next rotation in the Philippines, because that will be a transformed in contact team that goes forward in about a year.
DS: Okay. Thanks.
SR: All right, ready for one more? Matt Beinart, are you there?
Matt Beinart: I'm here.
SR: Do you have a question?
MB: I do, yeah. Thank you for doing this. You know, we've touched on a few, you know, technology areas, and you mentioned SUAS, ISV so far, but are there any other specific, you know, maybe two or three examples of new capabilities that you worked with that, you know, that also benefited from this transformation in contact approach? Just kind of any other specific examples you'd want to touch on here?
MGME: There are. Thanks for that. And again, we generally bucket in the ability to see, sense, strike, and protect. One that has already been raised is the integrated tactical network and the ability for brigades to modularize their communications equipment and get down to smaller command posts. We talked a little bit and I'll hand it over to the Sgt. Maj. to discuss a little bit on some of the load carrying equipment capability and how that is applicable. But it is the terminology that we use for it is the steed and then soon to be filled at the SMED. But that assists with Soldiers load. It assists with the ability to move equipment over varying terrain, and then finally the ability to strike a little bit further than currently what the company level can do. We talked somewhat on that, but that is one of the equipping lines that we'll start to fill over the course of the next week. But let me go to the Sgt. Maj., to talk a little bit about some of the pieces of equipment that enable Soldiers to move supplies, evacuate casualties, to take a burden off the load that they would normally be required to carry.
SMSC: Yes, sir. So, a month and a half ago, second light brigade combat team fielded the new Soldier protective system, which includes the new enhanced helmet and the new enhanced body armor. Those two items, compared to second brigade last year to where they are now, is a reduction in nearly 20% of weight being carried on the body, again increasing our ability to move throughout the jungle. The next large item would be the steed, sir. This piece of equipment was originally designed to help service members move casualties in and around the battlefield. So, think a wheelbarrow. You can put up to three casualties on it, and one person can move this equipment back by itself. So no longer do you need a whole squad to move one casualty. You can move three at a time. What the Soldiers have been doing during transformation in contact is playing with that piece of equipment and the manufacturer to see what else it can carry. So, they've gotten it to a point where you can carry now a company's communications equipment for mission command. It can carry the 60 millimeter mortar and the 81 millimeter mortar system all by itself, reducing the one person's chance of having to carry the heavy piece of equipment. And now we can go much further and much faster. The next thing we're starting to play with now is power generation, and how do we maintain our power systems, which is always going to be a limiting factor for us as we are a light brigade combat team scenario. So, less vehicles and less equipment.
MGME: Great, great question. Thank you for asking that.
MB: I appreciate that. Thank you. And if I could just ask one quick follow up, a bit more specific one, but working with the ISV, were there any lessons learned or feedback gathered that could kind of go into potential new variants of that platform that you would like to see, or new configurations just based on having that kind of hands on experience of the possibilities that the ISV offers you?
MGME: None right now. I think we'll know more at the completion of the training cycle. So, after JPMRC, I think we'll be able to have a better idea on what recommendations we would pass back in terms of lessons learned.
MB: Thanks.
SR: All right, last on my list is Matthew Adams. But did we have one more reporter chime in after we began?
Patty Nieberg: Hi, yes. Patty with Task and Purpose. Sorry about that.
SR: Okay. Matthew Adams, you can go with your question now.
Matthew Adams: Thanks for doing this. I guess a couple of follow-ups. You mentioned about the squad vehicle, that wasn't something that was part of this training. I was just hoping maybe to get a little bit more what was behind that decision. And regarding the UAS, as you mentioned, about how guys were able to see, you know, how they were using it and stuff, but are there some other things that coming up you'll want to do some more testing and training with? Thanks.
MGME: Yeah. So, on the infantry squad vehicles, we did not take those forward in the Philippines, if I understood your question, right, because they were, much like the SUASs, they were all consolidated with second brigade, who is the transformation in contact brigade. They will, however, be utilized during Operation Pathways in FY ‘25, after they go through the validation. On your question on equipment fielding, we remain very encouraged by the equipping lines that are there. It certainly makes the formations more agile, more mobile. It increases lethality. At the forefront of everybody's minds is how we protect those formations, particularly from the UAS threat. And so, what counter UAS capabilities can we continue to integrate in formations or is something that we continue to work through and explore, as well as in the electromagnetic sensing environment, being able to leverage existing technologies to understand what our footprint looks like in the electromagnetic spectrum, as well as potential adversaries.
MA: Got it. Thank you.
SR: Sir, would you want to answer one more?
MGME: Sure. I think we got time for one more.
SR: All right, Patty, go ahead.
PN: Thank you so much. Thank you for doing this, and I appreciate you taking my question. I'm honestly wondering if you have any anecdotes of obviously transform in contact is bringing kind of newer technology to Soldiers. But are there any anecdotes from recent rotations on kind of introducing the new technology and kind of seeing them be innovative with it, maybe using it for something that maybe wasn't originally the plan, kind of thinking outside the box?
MGME: Yeah, that is a really, really good question. I think we're probably a little bit too early in the training path to be able to formally capture that, other than just watching Soldier actions in live fire training and watching their methodology or their mentality. So, a pure example would be, as they are trying to set conditions to maneuver, they are certainly looking at how they emplace their direct weapons. They're certainly looking at what their fires plan is. But now they're also looking up at a UAS threat. They're asking questions about what the small unmanned aerial systems are seeing. So, watching them incorporate these new technologies at the earliest phases of training is really changing their mentality to integrate these additional assets, to see further, to sense better, to strike further, and protect the formation. And I am certain that our Soldiers’ innovation and their ability to adapt the equipment to the environment is really going to come to the forefront as we start to enter the next phase of our collective training.
PN: And if I could do a follow-up. You said it's changing the way that they're thinking, but do you think it's changing kind of leadership's way of thinking with some of these technologies?
MGME: It is, because now leaders have to account for their ability, like I said, to see a little bit further, to sense better, to understand what the threat is like. An example is the air to ground coordination. So, the piece that I would highlight for that, before you bring in a helicopter to a landing zone, you now have to make sure that that airspace has been cleared from the small unmanned aerial systems that maybe have been performing a reconnaissance task. So, there's an additional step in some of these processes that leaders at all levels are going to have to train and work through the tactics, techniques, and procedures for ensuring they're integrated properly.
PN: Thank you.
SR: All right, that ends our question portion. So, I'll turn it over to General Evans for his final comments now.
MGME: Hey, thank you very much. I really appreciate your time and again, our focus remains on war fighting readiness. We acknowledge that the battlefield has changed, requiring the introduction of new technologies to increase lethality, agility, and mobility. Obviously, we are part of the Army's processes of adjusting some of the processes to transform, stay ahead of our adversaries, and as important, be able to get this technology into Soldiers’ hands in a rapid manner, allow them to innovate through training, and then go through a validation process which for us will culminate in the October time period during the Joint Pacific Multinational Readiness Center rotation and afford us the ability to capture lessons learned and then we'll deployed into the region during Operation Pathways, starting with the Philippines beginning in the spring time period of 2025.
Again, thank you all very much for the time. Appreciate those of you that I've spoken with before, and these are always helpful engagements and look forward to seeing you all either in Hawaii or forward in the region.
SR: All right, thank you all for attending. Have a great rest of your day.
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